Today on the
show we have Christine Hipp and Mom. No, not her mom, the artist Mom. Mom is
the head of the Woman’s Creator League and the Ladybug Creator Group which
meets every week at the Comic Bug in Manhattan Beach.
I had them
on mostly because they are launching a new anthology featuring all women
creators and artists featuring women’s empowerment and helping women find their
have a theme for the book, but both Christine and Mom told me that just by
giving women the mic they got amazing stuff you wouldn’t expect women to write,
like a piece about pooping.
two young artists, but two amazing ones too. Not only are they finding their
way, but they have a good head on their shoulders about what makes a great
note of why I wanted them on the program is because they found their “tribe”. I
talk all the time about tribes and finding a group of people that are
like-minded. Sometimes those are Facebook groups. Sometimes they are friends.
Sometimes they are a group of people that meet in the same location and have
the same goals.
Christine talked about how being in the Sketchy Bug group helped them find a
voice and give them a way to express themselves. More so, it gave them the
courage to show their work even when it was hard.
One of the
big things we talked about was the Ira Glass quote. You know THE Ira Glass
quote among all the amazing ones. The one that’s been animated dozens of
“Nobody tells this to people who are
beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into
it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple
years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has
potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game,
is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you. A lot of
people never get past this phase, they quit. Most people I know who do
interesting, creative work went through years of this. We know our work doesn’t
have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if
you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its
normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. Put
yourself on a deadline so that every week you will finish one story. It is only
by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap, and your work
will be as good as your ambitions. And I took longer to figure out how to do
this than anyone I’ve ever met. It’s gonna take awhile. It’s normal to take
awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through.”
thing with creative work, you have to do it. You have to do it even when you
aren’t good. Having people you respect to help mold your journey is such a
blessing, one that both Mom and Christine shared with me.
talked a lot about zines, and how much I love zine culture because it allows
such a greater freedom of expression that standard comics. Even though I didn’t
know it at the time, Gherkin Boy was a very zine-y type of book influenced by
Devon McMindes of Thigh Man.
about a past guest, Rachel Dukes, and how she is able to do a webcomic and
print zines out as well, and how much I admire the ability to do something
avant guard and still find an audience.
What I love
about zines is that there is no judgement. Everything is art in zines, so even
if you suck at drawing, you can be accepted into this weird little community.
Even if you can’t draw, you can make something.
and anthologies too, there is also a much wider diversity of people. In
mainstream comics you get a lot of white, middle class, dudes. In zines you
have everybody. I love that. Mom said it had to do with the counterculture
movement of the 70s, and how zines were rebellion against the mainstream
culture that shunned women and minorities.
I don’t know
if that’s true, but it really sounded good.
I loved the
long ranging conversation we had, and I think you will too. If you want to find
Mom, she’s online on tumblr, facebook and twitter @momcomics and Instagram @mom_comics.
You can find
Christine on twitter @thehippchipp, on tumblr @chipphopapopolis, and on
Instagram @chipp.endales. However, she says she’s going to change it all to
@christinehipp in the near future.
You can also
find the sketchy bug group and ladybug group on Facebook if you want to get
involved. And don’t forget to check out their anthology either! The release
party is May 11th!